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Reader WVUColumbus offers some thoughts on the ACC's new deal. To write your own FanPost, use the links over to the right.
When Syracuse and Pitt announced they were departing the BEAST back in September, the remainder of the conference, including WVU, was thinking, "Here we go again". Thankfully, we have a proactive AD who called the ACC and SEC a number of times. He even used his connections w/ Deloss Dodds (AD at Texas.....Oliver Luck went to law school at UT) and inquired about the Big XII. While the former 2 weren't interested in adding an emerging football school, the Big XII was very interested and extended the invite. WVU fans were ecstatic because this meant a safe landing place (in a conference that just signed their media rights over to the conference for 6 years thus a guarantee of conference stability) from the dread of the Big East. However, AT THAT TIME WVU fans would have preferred the SEC (#1) and ACC (#2) before the far away land of Grapes of Wrath. Man, talk about how things change.
It all started earlier this week when Dennis Dodd(s)? of CBS reported that the Big XII had signed a 2.6 billion/13 year agreement that included only the T1/T2 rights. College football pundits were very impressed. This guaranteed 20M annually per school....and there's only 10 schools!! Therefore, the ability to grow this number is significant when you're talking about expansion (adding teams increases the annual amount per team if it's the right teams), conference championship game, etc. This conference could feasibly expand to 12 for a few years and then to 14, etc. and head back to the table w/ each step of expansion (w/ idea of added $ at each step). What great news if you were a Mountaineer fan, Sooner fan or Horned Frog fan. Then within 2 days the ACC announced the jaw-dropping deal with ESPN that unbelievably wasn't roundly ridiculed from the beginning. The press release made it sound like the ACC had kept up w/ the Big 4........hardly. In addition to the deal including the T3 rights the deal is extremely backloaded and there will not be an increase in $$ from the prior deal until 2021.
How did this all go wrong?
The ACC was the source of stability. It had academics. It had metro/research
universities. It had large TV markets. It had the best b-ball conference in the land. Turns out, none of this mattered. The only thing that mattered is the one thing that has mattered all along...........football. If you want to be a great b-ball school/conference that is absolutely fine. Just don't complain when you have conference instability ala the Providence Gang/Big East. College basketball doesn't matter in terms of conference stability.....not even a little.
WVU fans/alum are thanking our lucky stars we landed in the Big XII and not the ACC. I still think the conference will be absolutely fine. Great academics, great b-ball and its football is better than the Big East. It's just that it won't have the earning capacity of the Big 4. They still have room to grow (with Pac and B1G at 12 and Big XII at 10) and most importantly have great football.
One thing is for certain......As of right now, WVU fans would NOT rather be in the ACC than the Big XII. Our fans don't mind being grouped academically w/ Iowa St, Oklahoma and Texas Tech. We are content with playing Kansas, Texas, and KState in basketball. And we REALLY are looking forward to our football Saturdays beginning in 3-4 months.
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Have fun being owned by Texas.
The Big 12 is not the idea of stability. There’s a reason Nebraska, Colorado, Texas A&M, and Missouri have left the conference in the past 2 years. And also realize that the Big 12 is one Larry Scott decision from not even existing. WVU may like it now, but if Texas’s eyes start wandering, they’ll be in trouble.
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by oaklandzoo12 on May 13, 2025 10:14 AM EDT reply actions
And also
had WVU not been rejected the ACC/SEC, you would not be saying these things about the Big 12.
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by oaklandzoo12 on May 13, 2025 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
100% agree w/ you
but NOW we love the Big XII.
by WVUColumbus on May 13, 2025 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Which shows WHY the Hoopies got denied by the ACC
It also shows that WVU is a school of prostitutes.
by lougagliardi on May 22, 2025 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Texas can have wandering eyes all they want
if they leave anytime in the next 13 years, the conference keeps their 20M (ie. no program would forfeit their T1-T2 monies)
by WVUColumbus on May 13, 2025 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
this is because
the conference members signed their rights over to the conference insuring stability.
Something the ACC should have done.
by WVUColumbus on May 13, 2025 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm just curious
what you’re trying to get by posting this on the Pitt and SU blogs. We don’t care. Really, we don’t. We’re glad that you’re in the Big 12. Now move on with your life. Personally, I like the ACC just fine.
"You thinkin' what I'm thinkin'?"
"Aim for the bushes."
-from The Other Guys
by orangebookworm on May 13, 2025 12:43 PM EDT reply actions
Its amazing how much WVU cares about Pitt and the ACC
by JCBucs on May 13, 2025 2:04 PM EDT reply actions
We don't care too much
simply explaining the perspective from a WVU fan/alum and the insanity that has ensued since the announcing of the TV deals for the Big XII and ACC.
by WVUColumbus on May 13, 2025 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Something that we have in common
We could honestly care less about WVU and the Big 12.
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by oaklandzoo12 on May 13, 2025 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
WVU
I wouldn’t feature a Fanpost on the front page if it wasn’t Pitt related, but I did allow this up here because it offers a perspective on the ACC deal from Pitt’s biggest rival. It’s really applicable to not only West Virginia, but to Pitt.
West Virginia, in my opinion, probably tried to get into the ACC. I think they would have preferred it to begin with, but WVUColumbus’ point is that because of the new ACC deal (that seems like it may not be all it was cracked up to be), West Virginia is actually better off in the Big 12.
Those types of perspectives are allowed here as long as they apply to Pitt and there’s a reasonable amount of tact used.
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by CardiacHill on May 13, 2025 9:06 PM EDT reply actions
You nailed it right on the head, CH!
There was no intention of gloating, etc. In fact, I alluded to the fact that our fans PREVIOUSLY would have preferred the ACC over the Big XII.
by WVUColumbus on May 13, 2025 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
What is the intention of posting this stupid rant?
It seems to really have to point, and i seriously doubt you have inside knowledge of WV preferences in CFB conference affiliation, so its likely that you’re probably not even right. Needless to say, write or wrong, who cares.
If your academics were better you may have been able to go to the ACC. Who knows. Maybe i’ll write a really long ranting post entitled “Simply Amazing - the ACC wants nothing to do with WV.”
by OrangeHallucinations on May 16, 2025 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
* Right or wrong
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by 'CuseRugby on May 18, 2025 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Academics
has nothing to do w/ the Big 12/SEC deal and it will ultimately have NOTHING to do with the origin of 4 SuperConferences. The ACC is truly going to be fine. The remaining teams (after the poaching) will be “basketball first” schools anyway. That conference will still be the best in the country in my opinion.
by WVUColumbus on May 18, 2025 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Academics may have something to do with it...
Unvierstiy of Phoenix online was the first ACC choice if i remember correctly.
I think there actually were dicussions between WVU and the ACC, but WVU turned them down because they heard great things about the meth in the midwest.
by OrangeHallucinations on May 22, 2025 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
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