Expansionism Part 2,139: TCU To The Big East?
I'm as sick of college football expansion as the next guy. But when rumors surface, I like to comment on them every once in a while.
This time, it's the New York Post saying that TCU could be targeted by the Big East:
Having survived the most recent wave of expansion intact, the Big East Conference is studying ways to bolster its position and has targeted TCU as very attractive candidate to help strengthen its football league, The Post has learned.
"We are in a situation that requires us to evaluate and analyze all our options including expansion and television," said a source close to the league who requested anonymity. "There are a dozen or so schools that we’re looking at."
Two sources said the TCU discussion developed recently. The school’s tradition, academics and recent success have lifted the university’s profile. TCU (4-0) is ranked fifth in the polls and many believe it is currently the best team in Texas.
Wow, pretty significant news, right?
Not exactly.
The article only states that the Big East is targeting TCU as one of about a dozen schools in which they possibly have some interest. I hope something comes out of it, but I'm not holding my breath. When (yes, 'when' and not 'if') the next big wave of expansion hits college football, why would TCU join the Big East when other conferences such as the Big 12 or even the Mountain West come calling? The Mountain West? Yes, that's how far the Big East is falling and if it can add a quality team like TCU, the conference could be on its way to gaining an automatic BCS bid. (Brain fart)
I've repeated this same sentiment in my pre-SBN days, so I'll repeat it here: The Big East needs to be extremely proactive and not wait for the first round of expanion to hit again. They've done that somewhat with Villanova, but more steps need to be taken. The conference should actively be looking to add, in my opinion, at least three teams so that in the event it is purged, it still may be able to survive.
Offers need to be going out to teams like TCU yesterday. Sure, you can argue that no school with quality athletics programs in its right mind would join the Big East. Fine, but that's no excuse for not trying.
I've also previously mentioned the conference needs to actively (no, not actively as in, 'Hey, let's all sit around a table and talk about how nice it would be if...', but actively in the sense of confirming it's something the conference needs and finding the fastest and best way to go about it) pursue getting its own network. That's where the money is and is maybe the only way the Big East will be able to lure any quality team to its conference.
In other words, looking into TCU as an option is nice. But until the conference gets past the hand-holding stage and actually making offers to other schools, it will be hard for me to actually care about these sorts of things.
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Ummmm...
TCU is already in the Mountain West.
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by Voodoo 5 on Sep 28, 2025 8:33 PM EDT reply actions
Ummmmm....
Oh yeah. This is the type of stuff that happens when you’re multi-tasking trying to watch SportsCenter at the same time.
by CardiacHill on Sep 28, 2025 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Well this makes...sense?
I just don’t see adding a team from Fort Worth (Texas!) to the northeast-based Big East. That’s almost analogous to a Midwest-based conference adding a team from the middle of Pennsylvania. Almost.
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by PSUJunny05 on Sep 28, 2025 8:59 PM EDT reply actions
I used to follow that logic as well
But the Big East also has some less than ideal travel situations already. For example, Syracuse to South Florida is a longer trip than Louisville to Fort Worth or even Pittsburgh to Fort Worth (barely). If the conference added some more teams in the south closer to TCU like Memphis for football, Central Florida, or Tulsa (I know, not exactly adding quality to the conference, are we), it might make it a little more manageable.
by CardiacHill on Sep 28, 2025 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I never understood why South Florida was in the Big East, but at least they're on the East Coast.
But Fort Worth is in the middle of Texas. If the Big East wants to get out in front of not being decimated by the next round of expansion, I think they should target more “East”-based schools. Then again, if superconferences are where this country is headed, I don’t think the Big East survives.
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by PSUJunny05 on Sep 29, 2025 6:38 AM EDT up reply actions
If they're anything like UT
They’ll probably insist on bringing SMU with them, and changing the name of the confrence to the Big Texas.
Beat Iowa.
by jesse. on Sep 29, 2025 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Why exactly does the Big East need to get better?
Realistically, what are the chances of them losing their BCS bid? Pretty slim I’d guess. So why try an add a program that makes Penn State to the Big Ten look like the most obvious marriage that ever took place? Further, what happens when somebody hires TCU’s coach and they suck? It might make sense when the Frogs are 12-0, but it’s going to seem awfully silly when they go 6-6 and it’s basketball season.
Memphis is a good fit, but I don’t see how that helps at all in football.
In a world where I control everything, the Big East Champion and the MWC Champion play a game at the end of the season with the winner getting the automatic BCS Bid. That way a bunch of new schools get to say they play in a BCS confrence, nobody technically loses their BCS Confrence status, and the BCS doesn’t get watered down.
Beat Iowa.
by jesse. on Sep 29, 2025 1:10 PM EDT reply actions
Not necessarily better, but bigger
In short, the Big East is not in danger of losing their automatic BCS bid anytime soon. I believe they (as well as the other BCS conferences) are guaranteed through 2014. But after that, the deal can get renegotiated…at least that’s how I understand it.
While I wouldn’t necessarily be opposed to a Big East/MWC combined bid if it was the only way to keep the BCS bid in the conference, I think it would be a last resort of sorts. Sure it does a world of good for the MWC, but it wouldn’t really help the Big East. I guess you could argue that if the Big East had an undefeated team and then beat another undefeated MWC team, that could propel them to a national championship, but other than that and money generated from a Big East/MWC championship game, there’s not much benefit for the Big East. I think the Big East would have to be faced with a ‘Do this or lose your bid’ scenario before that happened.
I’m not looking to add TCU necessarily because they’ve been a good football team over the past few years. Rather, the league needs to add teams in general. There are surely better fits out there, especially geographically…Temple, Memphis, ECU, Villanova, etc. My main argument is that the league really needs to focus on adding at least three teams because we all know conference realignment is just beginning. It’s only a matter of time until conferences come hard after some of the teams in the league and if it’s to survive at all, it better start looking at the addition of teams NOW before it has to fold. That way, if the league does end up losing, say three teams, they still wind up with eight teams.
That might not stave off elimination, but then again, it could.
by CardiacHill on Sep 29, 2025 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
They'd need to add three teams they could keep though...
You have to think that Big XII is a pretty likely landing spot for TCU at some point. In my opinion, Pitt and Syracuse need to be trying to get into the ACC.
Beat Iowa.
by jesse. on Sep 29, 2025 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I think the Big XII is a destination that makes much more since for TCU. You can get around travel, but it would still be an issue.
Not sure where Pitt will end up, but the conference better start moving on some of these ‘possibilities’ if it wants to be around down the road.
by CardiacHill on Sep 29, 2025 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Big East would be wisest to wait until the Pac-12 figures out its next move.
I’m guessing that Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, and Iowa State would be jumping at the opportunity (both in basketball and football) to play in the Big East. Their viability as a major university would depend on it. It probably would require a name change, tho’.
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