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Enough is Enough, Dave

Should Dave Wannstedt be fired?  That's a question that I'm really contemplating right now.  Following Friday's embarrassing loss to West Virginia, the media seems to be finally turning against him.  Most fans already have.  What should Pitt do?  You don't want to be brash and fire the guy because of one loss, but you can't be an apologist either.

 

 

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When I try to think of reasons why Wannstedt should be retained after this year, I can't come up with much.  'He's a strong recruiter' is a common defense of the Stache.  Wannstedt's recruiting classes have been solid and produced some great players like Greg Romeus, Jon Baldwin, Jeff Otah, LeSean McCoy, and Nate Byham, however he fails to heavily recruit role players (the reason we have a former walk-on starting at center this year).  Having a recruting class with six 4-star prospects is great (as Wannstedt's 2011 class does), but when they're all defensive backs or running backs and you have only one offensive lineman in that same class, who's regarded as a fringe prospect, it's a bit of a moot point.  The only other thing Wannstedt really has going for him is the fact that he's a "Pitt guy".  He's loyal to the program and the university, and his players know he's not going to abandon them for a more attractive job elsewhere.  To this I have to say, that's nice, but loyalty doesn't necessarily translate into success.  In Wannstedt's case it really hasn't.  

Yes, he did lead Pitt to its first 10-win season since 1981 last year and a nice 9-win season before that, but both of those years should have ended better than they did.  Pitt opened the 2008 campaign with excitement, fresh off of a giant upset against WVU that knocked the Mountaineers out of the national title game.  They lost to Bowling Green in the season opener.  Bowling Green.  Stunning losses against Rutgers and Cincinnati followed later in the season to send 9-3 Pitt to the Sun Bowl.  That doesn't sound too bad, except that Pitt was embarrassed 3-0 in the bowl game.  Afterward, Wannstedt admitted that his team wasn't prepared.  Thanks a lot coach.

Last year, it was the 4th quarter collapse of the defense against N.C. State, the pathetic, unprepared look of the team in the Backyard Brawl, and the nightmare that was the Cincinnati game.  Wannstedt's team blew a 21-point lead with the Big East Championship on the line.  Need I say more?  Then in the Meineke Car Care Bowl, Wannstedt's Panthers looked unprepared again and barely beat an average North Carolina team, needing a last minute field goal to win it. 

Then, this season began.  Ranked #15 in the preseason polls, this was Pitt's year, this was the year Wannstedt's system would finally pay off.  Wrong.  The 2010 season has been nothing but a litany of disappointment and embarrassment.  An opening loss to Utah, on the road and with a rookie quarterback, didn't bother me.  Being entirely outclassed on national TV by Miami, Notre Dame, UConn, and West Virginia--all average teams--did.  Now, Pitt will, at best, finish 7-5 and head to some obscure bowl game that nobody cares about.  What a vapid finish to a season that was supposed to be "the year".  

Teams that start the year ranked #15 don't finish 7-5.  Well, under Dave Wannstedt they do. 

Teams that jump out to a 6-1 start, don't lose their last 5 games to end 6-6.  Guess what?  In 2006, under Dave Wannstedt, that's exactly what Pitt did. 

A team who knocks off the #2 team in the country on the road doesn't start the next season by losing to a mid-major team at home.  Dave Wannstedt's 2008 team did.

Teams that start 9-1 and are ranked #9 in the country don't lose their last two games in heartbreaking fashion.  Wannstedt's 2009 squad did. 

Teams don't go 3-9 after bye-weeks; rest is supposed to help, not hurt.  Apparently that's not the case with Wannstedt. 

I could continue, but you get the idea...

 

Much to my chagrin, I think Wannstedt will be back next year.  Even though it'll be next to impossible to sell tickets next season to a disgruntled fanbase, after extending Wannstedt's contract last year, AD Steve Pederson isn't going to admit that he was wrong and fire Wannstedt.  Instead, a few assistant coaches will get the axe.  This isn't the right course of action, though.

The bottom line is that for the past three seasons, Wannstedt has had the Big East Title in his hands and every year, he's found some way to let it slip away.  He's a choke artist to the Nth degree.  He can't keep his teams focused, he can't keep them disciplined, and, ultimately, he can't win the games that matter.  I know that's a cliche, but it's true.  Dave Wannstedt cannot win the big games, the games needed to take Pitt's program to the next level.  Mediocrity won't cut it for me anymore.  I'm tired of being outcoached and unprepared.  I'm tired of Wannstedt's ineptitude. 

Eventually you have to say enough is enough.  Well, Dave, enough is enough.

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good post

i think this echo’s most pitt fans’ sentiments. so much disappointment on so many occasions, eventually you gotta say enough is enough and move on.

by panthro on Nov 30, 2025 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks.

It’ll be interesting to see what happens after the season. I expect Pitt to beat Cincy, then win their comically-named bowl game to end 8-5; I think Wannstedt will surely be back then, at least for one more year.

If, however, they lose to Cincinnati, I really don’t know how the administration can justify bringing him back after a 6-6 year.

Hail to Pitt, Hail to Pitt Every Loyal Son

by mikeo90 on Nov 30, 2025 5:11 PM EST reply actions  

i wish i had as much faith as you

in our ability to beat cincy. i have zero confidence in this team and i wouldnt be a bit surprised if we get run off the field by a team we SHOULD beat by 2 touchdowns. oh well, at least i have confidence that we’ll kick duquesne’s ass tonight

by panthro on Dec 1, 2025 8:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Amen

I’m a UConn transplant living in Pittsburgh, so believe me, I’d love Pitt to keep Dave around as long as possible for the Huskies’ sake.

That said, and as little as I care about Pitt’s well-being, it absolutely pains me to watch this saga play itself out week after week, and for the last few years.

As a rule: Pitt comes into the season with by far the most talent in the conference, then somehow manages to squander very winnable games. Of course, this is a tried and true recipe for disappointment. Sure, Dave recruits well (in some areas), but he executes poorly — so, what’s the use? This team seems to be completely incapable of in-game adjustments, which was exploited in two bad losses to WVU and UConn.

We’ll see if Dave makes it through the off-season. P-G today reporting that he’s meeting with the AD: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10341/1108937-100.stm

If they have any respect for the program, it’s time to move on.

by amp343 on Dec 7, 2025 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

speak of the devil

Wanny’s gone.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10341/1108955-142.stm

by amp343 on Dec 7, 2025 4:39 PM EST reply actions  


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