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Dirty Vs. Physical - The Great Debate

I saw this in my issue of ESPN The Magazine and was glad to see an online version of the comments. Is Pitt's basketball dirty or physical?

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Syracuse guard Scoop Jardine called Pitt flat out dirty in recent comments in ESPN the Magazine when he talked about a variety of Big East topics:

"They play dirty," Jardine said in comments that were also published on ESPN.com, "and the refs allow it."

I don't know. Most who read my page know I'm clearly not a Pitt homer. But Pitt never struck me as a dirty team so much as a physical one. The team plays hard and maybe even a bit rough, but I don't recall seeing a lot of low blows, cheap shots, etc. There's a difference.

Pitt's players obviously disagreed:

"A lot of teams may refer to us as a dirty team, but I'd just say that we're a physical team," redshirt senior Gilbert Brown said Saturday. "Our practices are predicated on being physical and playing hard-nosed defense. So I wouldn't say we're dirty; I think we're just a physical team.

"Some people don't like a physical game, but it's basketball. It's a man's game."

Pitt senior guard Brad Wanamaker knows Jardine well. Both were four-star recruits in the class of 2007 and two of the best high school players in Philadelphia that year, although Wanamaker was named the Philadelphia Daily News Player of the Year and the Philadelphia Inquirer Southeastern Pennsylvania Player of the Year.

Perhaps most importantly, Wanamaker led his Roman Catholic team to a championship win over Jardine's Neumann-Goretti squad in the 2007 Philadelphia Catholic League playoffs.

"I didn't see [Jardine's comments]," Wanamaker said. "I might have to hit him up on that one. We grew up together and played against each other a lot in high school. He was actually my rival.

"I'm going to have to hit him up on that and let him know we're not a dirty team, just physical. We play hard throughout the game, so [the refs] just adjust to our game."

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I think it's fairly simple really

If you beat Pitt, they are physical. Therefore you can say you won a clean, hard fought game.

If you lose to Pitt, they are dirty.

If you are Pitt, you’re just tough.

Scoop Jardine never has beaten Pitt therefore, he thinks we’re dirty. Also he competed against Wanamaker on the HS circuit and got ran off the court when he was considered the best and his team the favorite, so there might be some resentment there.

by pantherboy on Nov 8, 2025 8:05 AM EST reply actions  

i'd say we're extremely physical

and just north of the border of being dirty.. i dont think i can remember any flagrant cheap shots or anything like that (although the dejaun blair bodyslam of hasheem thabeet stands out in my mind as a possible candidate) but i think we are just a team that bodys’s up on defense and gets physical for rebounds, i dont really think that’s dirty so much as scrappy.. and when we do cross the line we usually get whistled for it, especially in out-of-conference play so it doesn’t always work to our advantage.

by panthro on Nov 8, 2025 12:36 PM EST reply actions  

It's their style of play

Teams out here on the West Coast complain about Howland’s teams being dirty. It’s their style of play. Dixon is just carrying on what he was taught from Howland.

"You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?"- Dirty Harry

by KD1 on Nov 8, 2025 2:27 PM EST reply actions  

syracuse fan perspective

As a Syracuse fan I would not say Pitt plays dirty. They just play very physical compared to other teams and that’s what a lot of teams would probably say the same thing if asked the question. I love how Pitt plays, but when they play SU I always find myself thinking the refs let them play way too physical, which is due to my bias, and over recent years SU hasn’t been able to adjust to that. A perfect example was last years game in the dome.

by DLaDuke15 on Nov 9, 2025 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

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